What if the biggest gaps in vaccine safety aren’t about conspiracy theories—but about what doctors were never taught?
In this episode, I interview Dr. Joel “Gator” Warsh, who is a board-certified, integrative and holistic pediatrician based in Los Angeles, California. In this interview, we talk about the side of vaccine science that medical training often overlooks.
Dr. Warsh wrote a great new book, “Between a Shot and a Hard Place,” which tackles all the hard vaccine questions in an unbiased and balanced way.

The Missing Conversations Around Vaccine Safety
Dr. Warsh shares his concerns about the lack of long-term safety studies and how the current “one-size-fits-all” schedule may not work for every child.
Together, we explore the rise in chronic diseases among kids, the role of environmental toxins, and why open discussions—not censorship—are the real path forward in public health.

Why Asking Questions Isn’t Anti-Science
This episode isn’t about fear—it’s about understanding. You’ll hear how Dr. Warsh approaches vaccines with balance, informed consent, and personalized care, encouraging parents to ask the right questions and make educated choices for their families.
Ready for a thoughtful, science-based look at one of today’s most controversial topics? Don’t miss this powerful conversation with Dr. Joel Warsh on The Functional Nutrition Podcast.
- 00:00 Introduction: Vaccine Safety Concerns
- 02:38 Interview Introduction: Dr. Joel Warsh
- 02:51 The Chronic Disease Epidemic in Children
- 04:06 Personal Stance on Vaccination
- 06:33 The Rise of Chronic Diseases in Children
- 08:28 Factors Contributing to Chronic Diseases
- 09:50 Political and Environmental Influences on Health
- 17:30 The Role of Medications in Modern Health
- 19:29 Medical Training and Nutrition
- 23:59 Historical Context of Vaccines
- 30:32 How Vaccines Work and Personalized Medicine
- 33:59 Exploring Vaccine Reactions and Genetic Testing
- 36:38 The Controversy Surrounding Hepatitis B Vaccine
- 41:21 Questioning Vaccine Safety and Placebo Studies
- 45:42 Concerns About Vaccine Ingredients
- 59:33 The Need for Better Vaccines and Open Discussion
- 01:03:58 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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